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We visit other sites. If the site appears to allow anything to be published without regard to some type of rhyme and meter, we rate the site as C.R.A.P. (Cannot Regard As Poetry). We feel you have to wade through too much junk on those sites to make the experience worthwhile. Guess what, we have found NO SERIOUS POETRY SITES that enforce standards. NONE! If you know of any, > send us an email so we can take a look at them. We found two sites that are not very serious but have standards, and they advertise themselves as poetry for children. > www.poetry4kids.com is a more mature and sophisticated site than the other, but does not offer real posting by outsiders (all permanent poems are written by one author who is not a kid). It is really sad that they have standards, but no entertainment intended for more mature individuals. (We don't use the term "adult" since that seems to mean x-rated themes. What we mean is that the poem can have any theme, including for children or for intellectual stimulation of adults.) We intend to "reciprocal link" with sites we recommend (that is, we will put a direct link to them as long as they maintain one back to us). We're not sure we want to be linked from any of those other mostly trash sites. We want to be real poetry. They appear not to desire that. We don't want their association. (Apples and oranges.) The "children's" sites that have some standards are inappropriate as a reciprocal link since we allow adult themes on this site. So we are breaking our own reciprocal rule and will link to them but not ask for reciprocals. Please read our > home page for more about this. It is unfortunate that sites receive visitors by reciprocal linking with others to increase their traffic. And higher-traffic sites appear to be better. Plus, the more content a site has (even if it is pure garbage), the more the non-human robots crawl their site and think it is worthwhile. It's an illusion. They are increasing traffic among themselves. Please combat this by not visiting their sites and by telling others about ours. And please > submit poetry to our site so we can build our content. To our astonishment, we found one of the C.R.A.P. sites featuring a poem written in the 1800's that they said "makes you want to sing as a song". They seemed totally amazed at the concept of meter. That poem definitely was not for children. What happened? When did we allow all this C.R.A.P. to ruin this beautiful art form? allpoetry.com needs more explanation to understand why we consider it to be C.R.A.P. Our site (www.JustPlainPoetry.com) structurally rates every poem that is submitted and outright rejects some poems. See:
allpoetry.com does not have "poetry" submission standards. We mention above that we recommend everyone stays away from poetry slams. This is because they have no standards. In a poetry slam, a presenter typically gets up front and recites something like some childhood angst they are trying to overcome. And then the "audience" votes on the presentation. Unfortunately, the audience invariably consists of groups of tagalong amateur therapy personnel who support a particular presenter. They cheer wildly when their fellow therapy support group person presents. The person who has the largest group of supporters wins, no matter how awful and untalented their crap is. When I went, I felt like yelling "That's not poetry!" or "Where is the rhyme and meter?" or "Don't waste my time with your childhood traumas. I'm not your therapist!". allpoetry.com is very much an online version of poetry slams. They let anyone submit anything that they then put on the site. They allow people to create groups to discuss and share submissions. They discourage critiques and negative comments. So their site is filled with mostly free-form crap that little amateur therapy groups pat each other on the back for creating. They claim to be the world's largest poetry exchange site (we don't know how they determine this). We looked at several places on their site. Our major complaint is that the site owners have no filters for allowing only REAL POETRY on the site. They are afraid to grade a submission based on any "real poetry" criteria. They allow others to comment and vote on submitted poems. But you really have to look at a lot of pure CRAP to find a few decent submissions. They do list "Old Poets" where you can find some good stuff. But they do not tell which of these "Old Poets" wrote real poetry. They do have poetry lessons, but we don't know how good they are and didn't want to waste money to find out. For instance, we looked at the "poem" that had the highest rating on the site at that moment. It was not very good. If that was the best poem on the world's largest site, we are all in trouble. That particular "poem" had rhyming and an attempt at meter. But the author thought that meter meant number of syllables and completely ignored cadence in the lines. That author even said something to the effect of how hard it was to do rhyming and to count syllables. In other words, that author had written nothing but pure crap up until an attempt to do structure, then complained about how hard it was to count syllables and try to do rhyming. The result had no cadence (meter) and was highly praised on the site - and really had no emotion or storyline (you could see how forced it was to just try to meet those limited structural guidelines). So the best you can find on that site was a submission that had certain number of syllables per line, had some rhyming, had no meter (no cadence). And the author said they borrowed the meter from some other style of poetry (if they truly had borrowed it, the "poem" would have also had cadence). Our poet Roamoff stopped "borrowing" meters from other poetry in 2005. Every poem he has created since 2005 has a meter (style) invented by him. Most of his poems don't feel "forced" to fit into their sometimes extremely complex structure. Most of them evoke emotions or cause laughter or smiles. Most have alliteration and other elements besides just rhyming and meter. His poetry is generations ahead of the CRAP on allpoetry.com. You cannot maintain your own poetry lists unless you > login. |
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